The Bible Arguement

[aliceinponderland]

I hate this arguement beacsue first of all they already assume you believe in God which somethimes isnt the case and if theyre assuming their beliefs are right can I not assume animal rights are right cos its my belief? anyways:

In the Bible it says:

"God said, "Look, I have given you all the plants that have grain for seeds and all the trees whose fruits have seeds in them. They will be food for you. I have given all the green plants as food for every wild animal, every bird of the air , and every small crawling animal." And it happened."

This is all fine and dandy until you question the fact that tigers and so on are made perfectly to attack he antelope but we wont go in to that.

Thats a good thing to quote until the humans mucked up the earth and God drowned them all and then he said this:

"Everything that moves everything that is alive, is yours for food. earlier I gave you the green plants, but now i give you everything for food. But you must not eat meat that has blood in it, because blood gives life. I will demand blood for life. I will demand the life of any animal that kills a person, and i will demand the life of anyone who takes another person's life."

This doesnt really make sense now because it seems he thinks anyone who kills another person does not deserve to live anymore [fair enough] and any animal that kills a human has to die too but were allowed to kill them? That doesnt seem fair.
And although blood gives life surely its still bad to cook something that blood used to run through of to drain the blood out of something.
And this means black pudding must surely be a sin because its pretty much just blood isnt it?

But in the bible, as far as I know you only really ever see them eating birds or fish not cows and so on altho maybe they dont have cows there.

I still think if Jesus were on earth today he'd believe that animals should not be tortured before they die. I mean maybe he'd eat meat but only if it was cruelty free.

All I got from this was that we were originally meant to be vegans and then he said we could murder and eat corpes if we want to...

Thoughts? Comments? Thats pretty much just confused me now.

[Ainoko Ro-Zu <admin>]

hmmmmness....that's pretty weird. God is basically contradicting himself.

[aliceinponderland]

but he also gave us the right to choose to do what we want to so i'm preety sure he wouldn't mind because we're being compassionate aren't we? its not like hes giving us stuff and were being rude by not accepting it, they have lives and families and...brains! i mean the next time you eat meat you think about that animals brain...it'll put you right off. And as you've said before, briar why do we live longer and have less chance of heart disease and cancer and stuff?

[Ainoko Ro-Zu <admin>]

;D like I said lol. If God meant for us to eat meat, then it would be kinda stupid to make us die younger from it, ya'know?? It also says in the bible that the animals were on the earth before adam and eve

[aliceinponderland]

yeah, i mean what about "Thou shalt not kill" and "Do unto others as they would do unto you" or whatever it is basically dont kill and treat creatures the way you would like to be treated

[Ainoko Ro-Zu <admin>]

Hmmm...you could be on to something there. What context was he talking in? Did he really just mean humans, or is it possible that he meant every creature that he made?

[aliceinponderland]

I dunno. I mean he definatly wouldn't look on us badly because really we're just being compassionate but I don't know about meat eaters. I suppose if they worship him or whatever he doesn't really mind.

But i think if people are paying for cruelty and they know it then thats unfair because they know whats happening and really theyre just standing aside and letting it happen(I could refer to the good samaritan at this point but I wont). I mean if you buy meat from a company that actually has standards thats not as bad as someone who pays for cruelty and knows it

[Ainoko Ro-Zu <admin>]

Technically, you did refer to the good samaritan lolz ;D
Yeah, my response to most bible arguments would be that even if god said it was okay to eat animals, i don't recall anything about torturing them, or even about keeping them in captivity...

[aliceinponderland]

yeah i know its not fair. theyre still gods creatures arent they? so does that not mean by torturing them you are being disrespectful to god because he made them? or something...i dunno its still unfair i mean he did say humans would rule over animals which we do anyway because we have such a complex society i mean humans will always rule the earth wont they?

[Ainoko Ro-Zu <admin>]

Unless some humans evolve and become a different species that is more intelligent and stronger etc...I really need to write all this crap that comes into my head! I'd make loads of money...unless people aren't interested in my crap lol